Intent, Philosophy, and High-Level Structure
3/13/97, Gene to Jeri:
Give us some more thoughts on the purpose of the "Tree of Hope". Why
and how it should live and grow on the net. And what it means to
you and to those who are on the tree and their loved ones.
Then a few thoughts on what the page(s) should look like. Color,
texture, light, graphics, etc. I am afraid my business experience
may make this too formal, so you can help us make your statement come
from the heart.
Let's take a little time too. I think patience here will pay off big
as we go further.
3/14/97, Jeri to Gene:
I'm going to give your questions a little more thought rather then
just off the top of my head. I think we have to try to stay as
simple as possible as Lehua says but yet still get the message
I'll be in touch after I let some of my thoughts fly through my
"airy" head (gg).
3/14/97, Gene to Jeri:
<< I'm going to give your questions a little more thought rather then
just off the top of my head.>>
Good! How is the new picture of the tree coming along?
I think the KISS rule is great too. But as I surf the web, visions
of great things begin to swirl and dance in my brain.
I am looking forward to beginning after I hear more from you. I will
play around this weekend with your current picture. If we want to
place this in one file on this forum, it probably should be one page
to begin with.
3/15/97, Jeri to Gene:
>> But as I surf the web, visions of great things begin to swirl
and dance in my brain. <<
Yeah, I know, I know (gg).
Hmmm, what do you mean "it ....be one page to begin with", you mean
the tree should be one separate "page on a home page"? If so, I
agree. But check the other one out when it uploads and see if it's a
better shot. It has a great "8 point buck" in it (gg).
I'll think this weekend on my ideas of the tree and we'll start next
week, how does that sound?? You be thinking about what you need from
me. With out you and Lehua as Chauffeurs, I'd be driving off a
3/15/97, Gene to Jeri:
mean the tree should be one separate "page on a home page"?>>
Well there are many ways to do a web site, but two appear to be most
common. (I am ignoring "frames"-too busy.) The first way is to have
separate pages for each main element. Usually there is one "home
page" that is the main site. All of these pages are linked together
with hot links (references) that allow one to jump to each separate
page. A common added element is one or more hot links to other sites
and the ever present home page button.
The other way is simpler and involves having just one page for the
entire site. Hot links just take you to sections further down the
page. You can still have links to other sites.
If you have a simple site with few graphics, a single page will do
just fine. Another benefit of a single page is that we can upload it
into this forum. Anyone with a browser can then upload and view the
page with some simple instructions. But a single page gets unwieldly
if you have multiple ideas to express. And if there are lots of
graphics, it can be frustrating to download.
All of this is a long winded way of saying that we can start with a
single page. But, depending on what your vision is, it can easily be
divided into multiple pages as it grows or makes sense. When I say
easily, I mean it. A matter of minutes, unless we go crazy with
different backgrounds and formats.
I think next week is great time to start. I await your commands, my
3/15/97, Jeri to Gene:
>> one or more hot links to other sites and the ever
present home page button. <<
OK, Gotcha, I've visited enough home pages to know what you're
talking about. Yes, I would think the tree would either be on the
main "home page" and then hop via a link to the names, etc. or just a
somewhat plain home page that links to a picture of the tree. I'm
kind of a meat and potatoes person and when I go to a home page I
like to find what I'm looking for quickly and easily with no link
after link to get where I want to go.
>> The other way is simpler and involves having just one page for
the entire site. Hot links just take you to sections further down
Yes, I've seen these and like them. Once I figured out that I
didn't even have to hit the link but scroll down the page that's
usually how I got to where I wanted to go. I don't think, at least
for now, we want anything complicated but rather something simple but
yet gets the point across. If it gets to complicated we'll chase
away people who really do want to just see the tree. We're not
trying to sell something but instead maybe bring hope and pleasure to
people, so to me simple is best.
>>it can easily be divided
into multiple pages as it grows... <<
Again, I agree I think for now simple is better. Not everyone is
computer literate so the simpler we make it the easier it is for
everyone. So let's do start with one page, if we find we can add
more later, we'll (notice how I say "WE"--gg) worry about it then!!
>>I await your commands,
my liege! <<
Dang, I'm impressed, wow, my own kingdom (gggg). Hmmm I didn't know
Jesters had their own kingdom!!!!
OK, I'll still work on the "theme" the next couple of days and get
back with you. I still want you and Lehua and anyone else that has
comments to hop in here with ideas. No matter what this is for
"everyone" and I want no one to feel left out--Kinda of like a class
3/16/97, Jeri to Lehua:
>>>I think next week is great time to start<<
Nope. Let's do it today. <<
Geez, what a "taskmaster" (ggg)--Crack that whip!!!
>> Eventually you will want to have many pages branching off your
OK, Gene was just talking about this with me also, and we were
thinking that for now maybe we just start with "one page" with links
to let people hop down farther on the page, what do you think? Start
simple and then make it more complicated as things come up?
<<Next, you want to download the HPwiz/HPpub stuff>>
OH, OH, now we're getting complicated, I can smell the smoke from
here (gg). I think Gene is handling this part (gg).
<<Next, you decide whether you want to use an HTML editor or not... I chose not
to, I use Notebook at work, and WordPad at home.>>
Would Word for Windows work?
Love, Jeri (Having nightmares of Web Pages Attacking)
3/15/97, Lehua to Jeri:
>>when I go to a home page I like to find what I'm looking for
quickly and easily<<
Yes, exactly. My homepage is divided into only 6 gateways (Family &
Loved Ones, Creative Spirit, Work, Nature & Freedom, Heritage, and
Life & Death). The home page tells where everything is. Your site
could have your family, cancer links, the Tree, whatever, and a
person could link to whatever from your Home.
For now, the exercises will only get the tree & home built. As it
gets more complex, you would need branches off of branches. For
example, your family page could have branches into photo albums. My
philosophy is to keep only stuff of mainstream interest on the 6 main
pages, with very few graphics, and making all others to be branches
off of the main pages, especially graphics-heavy stuff like photo
albums, since a lot of people don't want to have to download a lot of
stuff just to see the basics.
For the Tree page, we could perhaps have a picture of the tree,
followed by the names. If you wanted, we could perhaps divide by
region, or by name, or whatever makes sense to you, so a viewer could
jump around the page to a particular section. I will help with
whatever way you want to work it.
Have you done your first page yet? How does it look? Once you get
it written we will do a background & stuff.
Hugs & love,
3/16/97, Jeri to Lehua:
Also, another thought I've been hashing over. How exactly will
people here on the forum access the page? Can anyone who has
compuserve access find it and how simple for them will it be?
Also, This homepage we'll be doing, is it a real "internet" homepage
or just something here on compuserve? See, I am illiterate when it
comes to this stuff!!